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Uyanga Gankhuyag
on Wed, June 12, 2013 at 04.28 am

Draft Report - Growth and Employment Thematic Consultations

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We are pleased to present the draft report of the global thematic consultations on Growth and Employment in the Post-2015 Development Agenda, which is now open for public comments. We invite you to submit your comments by Monday, 21 June 2013. 

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Barthélemy AZIAGBEDO from
Fri, January 3, 2014 at 03.06 pm
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Justus Mulwa """Journalist, columnist, author and human rights activist""" from Kenya
Wed, June 26, 2013 at 08.40 am
In this world we have to take care of each other and everyone needs the support of the other so as to attain vision 2030 in Kenya.And remember be your brother and sisters keeper.
Magdalena Garcia Hernandez Consultora en políticas públicas y transverzalización de género from Mexico
Tue, June 25, 2013 at 03.39 am
The reflections embodied in the document omitted the issue of corporate social responsibility. The focus of the agenda post-2015 can not continue to be based on business logic that is only driven by profit. For the medium and long term is necessary to develop a corporate culture in line with Sustainable Development Goals. In the short term requires regulating the behavior of large companies, including the financial sector, within the logic of state regulation to overcome market imperfections.

Las reflexiones plasmadas en el documento omiten el tema de la responsabilidad social empresarial. El enfoque de la agenda Post-2015 no puede seguir sustentándose en que la lógica empresarial es solamente movida por las ganancias. Para el mediano y largo plazo es necesario desarrollar una cultura empresarial acorde con los Objetivos de Desarrollo Sostenible. En el corto plazo se requiere regular el comportamiento de las grandes empresas, incluido el sector financiero, dentro de la lógica de la regulación del Estado para superar las imperfecciones del mercado.
Francine Gallo from Canada
Mon, June 24, 2013 at 03.15 pm
Voici un extrait de mon Mémoire sur l'Éducation comme droit international que j'ai soumis dans le cadre de ma Maîtrise en éthique publique.

I believe that next to food and water, education is the key to individuals and developing countries prospering. It is key to attaining the objectives of the Millenium. This topic needs to be given additional importance in this report in my view.

L’éducation est un droit que l’on prend généralement pour acquis en Amérique et en Europe mais il doit y avoir une obligation de tous de respecter ce droit pour tous. Même si l’éducation relève principalement des divers États dans le monde, l’ONU a du en assumer le « stewardship » pour que ce droit soit explicité dans des conventions et pour assurer le suivi des engagements des États dans ce domaine, surtout lorsqu’il s’agit des États pauvres et en état de crise et ceux qui font de la discrimination contre les filles/femmes et les personnes ayant des handicaps. Le défi pour l’ONU c’est de faire face aux États qui ont beaucoup de pouvoir ou dont le poids du vote est déséquilibré face aux autres États.
Dans son Rapport mondial sur le développement humain on indique que le développement est vu comme un « processus d’élargissement de la palette des choix qui s’offrent aux individus », et non seulement comme la progression du revenu national. Or, la palette des choix est liée à l’éducation et à la possibilité de sortir de l’ignorance avec l’espoir de bâtir un monde meilleur pour soi et les nôtres. Il y a une pensée à l’effet que si on donne à une personne un poisson, il mangera aujourd’hui, mais si on lui apprend à pécher, il se nourrira pour la vie. Il s’agit d’aiguiser nos connaissances et nos compétences.
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Ce qui importe de noter est que l’éducation rapporte non seulement un bénéfice pour l’individu et pour la société dans laquelle il se trouve, c’est aussi une étincelle dont la lueur donne l’espoir de bâtir un monde meilleur. Il y a une pensée à l’effet qu’une chandelle n’a jamais perdu de sa lueur pour avoir embrasé une autre chandelle. Je crois que grâce à l’éducation on pourra un jour réaliser les objectifs du millénaire établis par l’ONU au nom des États du monde.

La recette d’après moi est d’avoir en place tous les éléments de la bonne gouvernance mondiale avec le leadership et les capacités de mobiliser les efforts nécessaires par l’entremise de l’ONU, s’assurer de l’engagement des États, d’éduquer les gens partout au monde sur les besoins et les solutions, en misant sur les exemples d’approches qui ont fonctionné, et enfin que les institutions et les individus se donnent la main. L’important est de croire que l’objectif peut être atteint et d’avoir un système fiable pour rendre compte des progrès.

Par ailleurs, il faut aussi, comme communauté internationale, s’assurer de rendre compte des résultats et dénoncer les actes fautifs et la corruption qui existent à l’occasion plutôt que de les ignorer.

Pour terminer sur une note optimiste, je crois qu’avec beaucoup de conscientisation, d’éducation de la population, de détermination et de générosité avec les yeux bien ouverts on pourra atteindre les objectifs visés d’assurer tout au moins le droit à l’éducation primaire et secondaire à tous et à toutes et que l’éducation postsecondaire soit possible pour la majorité. Pour cela il faudra faire l’effort de se conscientiser nous-mêmes. Mon père, Lucien Cloutier, avait exprimé la pensée suivante comme un idéal de vie honnête d’une personne conscientisée:

VIVRE DANS LA VÉRITÉ - PENSER COMME ON VIT - PARLER COMME ON PENSE

Ayons donc la vision d’un monde avec l’éducation accessible, abordable, de qualité et bien at bénéfices pour réaliser les objectifs qu’on s’est donnés d’ici 2015.

L’éducation, comme l’a dit Paquet par rapport à l’éthique, est sans doute aussi ‘une sagesse toujours en chantier’; c’est un jardin qu’on doit ensemencer, faucher, cultiver, labourer, sillonner débroussailler, récolter et honorer pour nous-mêmes et les générations futures.


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Society for Public Health Education
Sun, June 23, 2013 at 04.37 pm
The draft report, Growth and Employment in the Post-2015 Development Agenda, represents much thoughtful effort. There is value in gathering multiple diverse perspectives through online global consultation, public forums and expert advice. The Society of Public Health Education (SOPHE) recognizes disability as a "universal" phenomenon that affects everyone, whether by direct experience or through family members, friends or colleagues.

We concur with five main implications and recommended actions for UN entities, Member States, educational institutions, business and industry as presented in the draft report. We welcome the focus on unique needs of women and youth, who most often are victimized by unhealthy labor practices worldwide.

We recommend increased attention within this report to career training and employment at fair wages for persons with disabilities, providing equal opportunities. Participants in the recent World We Want online global consultation - "Inequalities and a Disability-inclusive Agenda" - voiced concerns about institutional discrimination limiting persons with disabilities from full participation in society:
• (We need) social protection schemes related to work and employment.
• Legislative bodies should ensure that discrimination on the basis of disability is prohibited…and that national legislation is in compliance with the CRPD.
• Implement effective laws against both direct and indirect discrimination.
• Implement the necessary strategies, policies, and action plans to address discrimination, which may include temporary special measures to dismantle discrimination and progress toward equality.
• Require public and private institutions to develop non-discrimination action plans, and fully implement these policies.

A/RES/65/186 - Realizing the MDG for persons with disabilities towards 2015 and beyond pledges Members States...”to develop and accelerate the exchange of information, guidelines, standards, best practices, legislative measures and government policies regarding the situation of persons with disabilities and disability issues, in particular as they relate to inclusion and accessibility.”

Further, the 2011 UN DESA report, Disability and the Millennium Development Goals. A review of the MDG process and strategies for inclusion of disability issues in Millennium Development Goals, reminds us that “the most pressing issue faced globally by persons with disabilities is not their specific disability, but rather their lack of equitable access to resources such as education, employment, health care and the social and legal support systems, resulting in persons with disabilities have disproportionately high rates of poverty” (emphasis added).

SOPHE encourages its members to promote full inclusion of persons with disabilities in assessment, health promotion program planning and implementation. There are numerous opportunities for like-minded NGOs and Disabled Persons Organizations to collaborate, achieving synergy of effort. We applaud the good work shown in the draft Growth and Employment report and encourage consultation with disabled persons organizations to include a focus on education and employment opportunities for persons with disabilities.
Moustapha Kamal Gueye Policy Specialist - Green Jobs from Switzerland
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 04.40 pm
While the discussions showed that “as countries attain higher development levels, structural transformation should focus on transitioning from energy-intensive and polluting sectors toward more energy-efficient and less carbon-emitting sectors, accompanied by corresponding changes in consumption”, such a move towards greater energy and resource efficiency should not be confined to countries at higher levels of development. It is equally relevant, if not even more so, for countries with low incomes, low resource base and often net energy importers. Moreover, pursuing lower-input agriculture and industrialisation would avoid locking-in countries into unsustainable paths of development – which may be costly over time as prices of natural resources, including energy, get higher. Key to this challenge is what effective policies and international cooperation approaches can help less developed countries embark on an energy and resource efficient path of growth and job creation.
IMPERO
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 03.49 pm
I have read the draft and I think it is a fair representation of the consultations. Maybe it is second thoughts but the thought struck me that if you are talking about future employment the main parameters should be considered first e.g. what work needs to be done? what resources exist, accessible and useable energy, water, fertile land, fisheries, minerals, know-how, etc.? Personally I think it is not necessary to have a paid job to be a decent man or woman or child. We do not reckon a person's worth in Ireland by the type of job they do. There is always an important "vocational" aspect to education. Maybe it is more important to educate for change and flexibility? I strongly agree with the Ugandan sentiment expressed on page 17 and developed somewhat on subsequent pages i.e. better international transfer. Anyway congratulations on a good job of work!
Bufete de Estudios Interdisciplinarios A. C. integrante de la Red Iberoamericana por la Igualdad Presupuestal entre Mujeres y Hombres
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 03.02 pm
Underpaid work means non-compliance with human rights now, increased risk factors of violence and crime, and development constraints to reduce the size and dynamics of domestic markets
Andrew Kenny """author, I am a retired engineering manager and consultant and have published two books.""" from United States of America
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 02.44 pm
The world is stuck in a paradigm that needs to be recognized if a real change of direction is to be accomplished. this is my analysis:

A NEW PARADIGM FOR AMERICA’S DEMOCRACY

• After two disastrous crashes and many problems becoming more and more visible in the last ten or fifteen years is seems worthwhile to review what the paradigm we are embedded in looks like; what are its constituent parts?
• First or all and the most important issue at present is that capitalism is pervasive and is determining the major choices made politically, strategically and now even individually.
• It’s difficult to sort out any paradigm without getting into it in some detail. This is a complex situation and it is mostly invisible to us like water is to a fish. An initial list may be helpful.
o After world war two, a decision was made by Eisenhower to build an expressway across the country. This opened up the country to developing what is called suburban sprawl, and the automotive love story.
o The suburban sprawl lifted the economy due to building houses, pervasive change, and automotive dependence. Eventually many of the factories, which were old and worn after the war, were rebuilt closer to the suburbs where the managers lived. Other business quickly followed causing a big shift in the economy. Now we were all dependent on this new economy in ways no one was expecting.
o A first warning signal was the publishing of SILENT SPRING by Rachel Carson. We were suffering from the polluting of our land; we didn’t even know it.
o The heavy polluters gradually moved to foreign countries that were glad to get the work for their poor; we were glad to get the cheap labor sending us inexpensive products.
o Back then Atomic Energy seemed to be the solution to all our energy problems. Now the world knows better.
o Our way of life is intricately connected with pollution, a byproduct of energy use.
o I may be slightly paranoid, but I suspect that our federal government has been secretly working hard trying to manage the situation, and not seeing an easy way out; the situation is not reversible. Our farm lands are being used for crops tu make ethanol that keeps our cars running. Genetically Modified crops are being developed and sold in our markets in an attempt to increase yield or decrease costs.
o We have also made agreements to buy much of our food from foreign countries. There are extensive treaties in place to keep all these markets free so we can import what is important to us and sell what is surplus, e.g. insurance, stocks and bonds, financial expertise, etc.
o To keep this system running in our favor the world money system has to be biased in our favor. This is where Washington comes in with deregulation and trade agreements. Our banks must be gargantuan to compete worldwide and finance buying the natural resources of other countries. We now assume that natural resources do not belong to the people, even in democracies. The Federal Reserve has to make decisions about the money supply that have unforeseeable consequences, and are fraught with political disaster.
o One of the side effects of our present economic model is providing many jobs and caring for the poverty stricken.
o Most of the military budget is devoted to civilian costs: think tanks, secret and other surveillance in this country and lately worldwide.
o We are gradually coming to realize that it is difficult to keep all of us at work, so new work is being made up. We are not close to competitive in many industries where inexpensive labor is pervasive. Computer use and automation has eliminated many jobs as well.
 The war on drugs has enabled the creation of a massive justice system with a virtual army of police, lawyers, judges, and prisons. It has a side effect of keeping a lot of impoverished, self medicating types, off the streets. This gave rise to the guns for cocaine fiasco.
 We pay many billions to civilian agencies through the NSA, CIA, and Army support here and in foreign countries. And this public knowledge is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
• There are always surprises because of the complexity of life.
o Who would have thought that the world wide empowerment of women would be a major component to ending hunger in the world?
o Who would have guessed that Midwestern farms would be covered with windmills generating electricity, or that our western deserts would be covered with photovoltaic grids turning the sun’s rays into electricity?
o Who could have foreseen the communications explosion from the Internet and cell phones? This alone has led to the fall of a few governments, including the election of Barak Obama, the first break in the paradigm of “white man dominance.” This is one of the wild cards in our midst, even with the NSA trying to get on top of all the world changing communications that are out there.
o Who could have thought that companies would be trying to patent human genes and that the infamous Justice Clarence Thomas would put a stop to it with his opinion?
o Who would have thought that the high price of gasoline would lead the oil companies into fracking, creating a surplus of natural gas to replace coal in the generation of electricity and preventing the cost of gasoline from further price creep?
I think that this outlines the present situation in enough detail. The question implied is what future can be targeted and what strategies can be employed to move us away from disaster; what new paradigm is worth working for?


Present Paradigm New Paradigm First Effect Secondary Effect
Money trumps politics Politics free of money Frees the will of the people-advertising becomes an issue Many uncertainties generating fear
Pollution in the world Pollution purposely limited to goals set by public discussion Fewer health problems
Control Global warming More energy from sun and wind-penalties for automotive
War on Drugs Small offenders not arrested. Close down much of the justice system Many impoverished delinquents stay on the streets-social control lost
Many nations ruled by despots Eliminate despotic Governments More of the world becomes self-determined Many uncertainties. Lose of secret agreements.
Fear generated.
Planned money supply with secret parameters Parameters agreed on with major countries Resistance from many parts of the American government. New direction for government agencies may have many uncertainties. Fear generated.
Large homes Smaller homes Less energy Long time
frame
Large cars Smaller cars, etc. Less pollution Better health, other means of travel developed

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Ahmad Bachir MBOW Manager comptable financier from Senegal
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 12.32 pm
les programmes de formations et le marché de l’emploi en Afrique. Et une bonne organisation de forums de rencontre entre la société civil , État , et le secteur privé car l'emploi viens après la formation . Il faut des dialogues . et une bonne communication .

il ya beaucoup de jeune en Afrique , pensez vous qu'ils pourront tous travailler dans ses pays peu développer .????????????
TEMATIO Maurice specialiste de developpement from Cameroon
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 03.51 pm
Effectivement, tous ces jeunes africains peuvent bien travailler en Afrique si de réelles politiques de développement sont mises sur pied par le biais du dialogue entre les universités et autres centres de formations qui est le formateur d’une part et les entreprises d’autre part. Parce que l’un des problèmes reste l’inadéquation entre l’offre de formation et la demande des entreprises.
Il faut également promouvoir l’entreprenariat privé et accompagner ceux qui s’y lancent car c’est de cette façon qu’on crée la valeur ajoutée à l’économie.
Favoriser la fuite des cerveaux ne serait pas une solution pour l’Afrique qui a besoin de ces brillants enfants pour la recherche et l’innovation afin de s’affirmer sur la scène internationale
TEMATIO Maurice Tematio Maurice from Cameroon
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 10.10 am
Ce rapport est un véritable condensé de la situation générale de l’emploi dans le monde. Pour ce qui est de la situation particulière de l’Afrique Subsaharienne, il faudrait prendre en compte le fait que le niveau et les conditions d’emploi sont encore très précaires du fait d’une large majorité de personnes qui évoluent et font même toute leur carrière dans le secteur informel qui malheureusement n’est pas entièrement pris en compte dans la comptabilité nationale et internationale. De plus, les pouvoirs publics ne mettent pas suffisamment en œuvre des politiques de développement permettant de sortir de ce secteur. L’accent devrait donc être mis sur le développement du secteur formel en Afrique si on veut assurer aux travailleurs qui sont à 90% de sexe féminin et des jeunes la protection sociale et un avenir décent.
Il faudrait également tenir de l’inadéquation entre les programmes de formations et le marché de l’emploi en Afrique.
Le cas des personnes vivant avec un handicap doit également être pris en compte et inciter les gouvernements du monde à respecter leurs engagements vis-à-vis de cette couche sociale qui représente prés de 15% de la population mondiale
VSGO
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 09.58 am
Thank you for the informative report. It is impossible not to agree with the laid out material. Especially in the areas of education, which clearly noticed the need to coordinate the vision skills of the employer and High School, where are specialists getting education. Based on the experience of some countries, much of the difficulty in finding job and good employment rests on the non-compliance of the employer's expectations of the candidates. So this is perspective area for the development in achieving high-qualitative employment in the developing countries.
Lal Manavado Analystundefined from Norway
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 09.39 am
The report requires its explicit integration into a holistic framework.

The general intent of this document and indeed its siblings related to other themes is praiseworthy, and most of the value notions they embody are rational and humane. However, unless the declared aims of those documents are integrated into a holistic framework, conflict among goals seems to be inevitable.

However, before one can synthesise a holistic post-2015 framework, that could mitigate human misery and environmental degradation that are wide-spread today, it is imperative tfor one to understand their generic causes.

There is a general agreement on that these are caused by deprivation of the many and the over consumption by the few.

It is vital to grasp that deprivation of the many and environmental degradation are not solely due to the consumerism of the few, but it contributes to them.

What does deprivation entail? The current document and its fellows answer this question in terms of traditional economic terms garbed in a slightly green mantle with pinkish stripes. This makes one think of an attempt to send a man to the moon by a method based on calculations made according to the old Geocentric theory of the cosmos.

But, if we are willing to look at deprivation in a slightly different way, we may regard it as one's inability to achieve certain reasonable objectives, which are necessary for one to lead a life of contentment and well being.

Now, man is not born with the ability and skill to achieve those objectives. Part of this ability involves knowing what goals would have to be achieved and how to achieve them. This knowledge and the skills involved have to be acquired by learning. Hence, education may be seen as the tool that enables one to combat deprivation.

The other part of the ability involved is concerned with material resources necessary for one to obtain an 'education'. These are categorically identical with the help a stone-age child may have got to learn how to skin a dead beast, and to how to bang some elementary particles in Particle Physics. Price and degree of sophistication involved are totally irrelevant here.

At this point, anyone who has read thus far might ask, what are those reasonable goals whose achievement is essential for a life of contentment and well being? Well, if we are willing to free us from the traditional notions that impair our ability to use reason, it would be agreed that;
i. education
ii. nutrition
iii. health
iv. security
v. esthetic and leisure activities
vi. procreation

encompass and subsume every known secular human goal.

Security in its generic sense includes protection from the inclemencies of the weather that is provided by clothing and housing, security provided by actually enforced civil, criminal and international law, etc.

Obviously it is the need for nutrition that creates the need for food, hence agriculture, etc. To keep it simple, I will not go into the esthetic component of nutrition, nor yet to that of clothing.

Employment enables one to achieve some or all of the above goals indirectly. At the risk of being trivial, it is necessary to point out that not even subsistence farming _directly_ satisfies one's nutritional needs. This is a technical point, but, very often, it is overlooked with disastrous consequences.

In a previous contribution, I have established the indisputable fact that human survival depends on maintaining a certain balance between all living things and the mineral resources necessary for their survival. The possibility of doing so depends on maintaining the greatest possible bio-diversity and the number of individual species including man not falling or rising beyond certain limits.

Now, any work, self-employment or otherwise, if directed at getting richer and richer entails getting more and more people to use one's products or services, regardless of their real value. This is the basis of modern economy, and its failure lies in that it promotes the tool,money, or the power it enables one to gain as a primary goal. And this is legal.

I believe it is the Romans who said that money does not smell, which was much later promoted by another country as the fountainhead of happiness.

So, what do we need? I hope it is not too late yet, but would it be possible to agree on environmental well being as the framework within which other subordinate goals are described in a logically cohesive way?

Those goals would include the 6 generic goals described above.

When we come down to employment, it would be necessary to create new jobs, especially work related to environmental regeneration throughout the world.

It is time also to take a very hard look at autonation.

Gross consumerism of the affluent leads to environmental degradation and poverty and injustice. As it is promoted by cunning mind managing advertising, there is no reason not to impose severe restrictions on this multi-billion dollar trade that is very economical with the truth.

As many others have pointed out, we need to change our basic value beliefs if we are to continue to live as human beings. But, this requires two conscious actions on our part.

First, we must give up the primitive belief that money is the index of a man's worth. True, money gives one power and the ability to buy everything advertising trade wants one to buy. But, this is not very different from respecting the big brute in the common cave who just grabbed what he wanted from the other stone age hunters.

If we are able and willing to accept achieving the six goals above in a manner that does not destroy our habitat and does not deprive anyone else from doing so, as our prime value, and act accordingly, 2015 may indeed become the year man earned his species name.


Lal Manavado.
Lal Manavado Analystundefined from Norway
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 09.39 am
The report requires its explicit integration into a holistic framework.

The general intent of this document and indeed its siblings related to other themes is praiseworthy, and most of the value notions they embody are rational and humane. However, unless the declared aims of those documents are integrated into a holistic framework, conflict among goals seems to be inevitable.

However, before one can synthesise a holistic post-2015 framework, that could mitigate human misery and environmental degradation that are wide-spread today, it is imperative tfor one to understand their generic causes.

There is a general agreement on that these are caused by deprivation of the many and the over consumption by the few.

It is vital to grasp that deprivation of the many and environmental degradation are not solely due to the consumerism of the few, but it contributes to them.

What does deprivation entail? The current document and its fellows answer this question in terms of traditional economic terms garbed in a slightly green mantle with pinkish stripes. This makes one think of an attempt to send a man to the moon by a method based on calculations made according to the old Geocentric theory of the cosmos.

But, if we are willing to look at deprivation in a slightly different way, we may regard it as one's inability to achieve certain reasonable objectives, which are necessary for one to lead a life of contentment and well being.

Now, man is not born with the ability and skill to achieve those objectives. Part of this ability involves knowing what goals would have to be achieved and how to achieve them. This knowledge and the skills involved have to be acquired by learning. Hence, education may be seen as the tool that enables one to combat deprivation.

The other part of the ability involved is concerned with material resources necessary for one to obtain an 'education'. These are categorically identical with the help a stone-age child may have got to learn how to skin a dead beast, and to how to bang some elementary particles in Particle Physics. Price and degree of sophistication involved are totally irrelevant here.

At this point, anyone who has read thus far might ask, what are those reasonable goals whose achievement is essential for a life of contentment and well being? Well, if we are willing to free us from the traditional notions that impair our ability to use reason, it would be agreed that;
i. education
ii. nutrition
iii. health
iv. security
v. esthetic and leisure activities
vi. procreation

encompass and subsume every known secular human goal.

Security in its generic sense includes protection from the inclemencies of the weather that is provided by clothing and housing, security provided by actually enforced civil, criminal and international law, etc.

Obviously it is the need for nutrition that creates the need for food, hence agriculture, etc. To keep it simple, I will not go into the esthetic component of nutrition, nor yet to that of clothing.

Employment enables one to achieve some or all of the above goals indirectly. At the risk of being trivial, it is necessary to point out that not even subsistence farming _directly_ satisfies one's nutritional needs. This is a technical point, but, very often, it is overlooked with disastrous consequences.

In a previous contribution, I have established the indisputable fact that human survival depends on maintaining a certain balance between all living things and the mineral resources necessary for their survival. The possibility of doing so depends on maintaining the greatest possible bio-diversity and the number of individual species including man not falling or rising beyond certain limits.

Now, any work, self-employment or otherwise, if directed at getting richer and richer entails getting more and more people to use one's products or services, regardless of their real value. This is the basis of modern economy, and its failure lies in that it promotes the tool,money, or the power it enables one to gain as a primary goal. And this is legal.

I believe it is the Romans who said that money does not smell, which was much later promoted by another country as the fountainhead of happiness.

So, what do we need? I hope it is not too late yet, but would it be possible to agree on environmental well being as the framework within which other subordinate goals are described in a logically cohesive way?

Those goals would include the 6 generic goals described above.

When we come down to employment, it would be necessary to create new jobs, especially work related to environmental regeneration throughout the world.

It is time also to take a very hard look at autonation.

Gross consumerism of the affluent leads to environmental degradation and poverty and injustice. As it is promoted by cunning mind managing advertising, there is no reason not to impose severe restrictions on this multi-billion dollar trade that is very economical with the truth.

As many others have pointed out, we need to change our basic value beliefs if we are to continue to live as human beings. But, this requires two conscious actions on our part.

First, we must give up the primitive belief that money is the index of a man's worth. True, money gives one power and the ability to buy everything advertising trade wants one to buy. But, this is not very different from respecting the big brute in the common cave who just grabbed what he wanted from the other stone age hunters.

If we are able and willing to accept achieving the six goals above in a manner that does not destroy our habitat and does not deprive anyone else from doing so, as our prime value, and act accordingly, 2015 may indeed become the year man earned his species name.


Lal Manavado.
Lal Manavado Analystundefined from Norway
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 09.39 am
The report requires its explicit integration into a holistic framework.

The general intent of this document and indeed its siblings related to other themes is praiseworthy, and most of the value notions they embody are rational and humane. However, unless the declared aims of those documents are integrated into a holistic framework, conflict among goals seems to be inevitable.

However, before one can synthesise a holistic post-2015 framework, that could mitigate human misery and environmental degradation that are wide-spread today, it is imperative tfor one to understand their generic causes.

There is a general agreement on that these are caused by deprivation of the many and the over consumption by the few.

It is vital to grasp that deprivation of the many and environmental degradation are not solely due to the consumerism of the few, but it contributes to them.

What does deprivation entail? The current document and its fellows answer this question in terms of traditional economic terms garbed in a slightly green mantle with pinkish stripes. This makes one think of an attempt to send a man to the moon by a method based on calculations made according to the old Geocentric theory of the cosmos.

But, if we are willing to look at deprivation in a slightly different way, we may regard it as one's inability to achieve certain reasonable objectives, which are necessary for one to lead a life of contentment and well being.

Now, man is not born with the ability and skill to achieve those objectives. Part of this ability involves knowing what goals would have to be achieved and how to achieve them. This knowledge and the skills involved have to be acquired by learning. Hence, education may be seen as the tool that enables one to combat deprivation.

The other part of the ability involved is concerned with material resources necessary for one to obtain an 'education'. These are categorically identical with the help a stone-age child may have got to learn how to skin a dead beast, and to how to bang some elementary particles in Particle Physics. Price and degree of sophistication involved are totally irrelevant here.

At this point, anyone who has read thus far might ask, what are those reasonable goals whose achievement is essential for a life of contentment and well being? Well, if we are willing to free us from the traditional notions that impair our ability to use reason, it would be agreed that;
i. education
ii. nutrition
iii. health
iv. security
v. esthetic and leisure activities
vi. procreation

encompass and subsume every known secular human goal.

Security in its generic sense includes protection from the inclemencies of the weather that is provided by clothing and housing, security provided by actually enforced civil, criminal and international law, etc.

Obviously it is the need for nutrition that creates the need for food, hence agriculture, etc. To keep it simple, I will not go into the esthetic component of nutrition, nor yet to that of clothing.

Employment enables one to achieve some or all of the above goals indirectly. At the risk of being trivial, it is necessary to point out that not even subsistence farming _directly_ satisfies one's nutritional needs. This is a technical point, but, very often, it is overlooked with disastrous consequences.

In a previous contribution, I have established the indisputable fact that human survival depends on maintaining a certain balance between all living things and the mineral resources necessary for their survival. The possibility of doing so depends on maintaining the greatest possible bio-diversity and the number of individual species including man not falling or rising beyond certain limits.

Now, any work, self-employment or otherwise, if directed at getting richer and richer entails getting more and more people to use one's products or services, regardless of their real value. This is the basis of modern economy, and its failure lies in that it promotes the tool,money, or the power it enables one to gain as a primary goal. And this is legal.

I believe it is the Romans who said that money does not smell, which was much later promoted by another country as the fountainhead of happiness.

So, what do we need? I hope it is not too late yet, but would it be possible to agree on environmental well being as the framework within which other subordinate goals are described in a logically cohesive way?

Those goals would include the 6 generic goals described above.

When we come down to employment, it would be necessary to create new jobs, especially work related to environmental regeneration throughout the world.

It is time also to take a very hard look at autonation.

Gross consumerism of the affluent leads to environmental degradation and poverty and injustice. As it is promoted by cunning mind managing advertising, there is no reason not to impose severe restrictions on this multi-billion dollar trade that is very economical with the truth.

As many others have pointed out, we need to change our basic value beliefs if we are to continue to live as human beings. But, this requires two conscious actions on our part.

First, we must give up the primitive belief that money is the index of a man's worth. True, money gives one power and the ability to buy everything advertising trade wants one to buy. But, this is not very different from respecting the big brute in the common cave who just grabbed what he wanted from the other stone age hunters.

If we are able and willing to accept achieving the six goals above in a manner that does not destroy our habitat and does not deprive anyone else from doing so, as our prime value, and act accordingly, 2015 may indeed become the year man earned his species name.


Lal Manavado.
Charlotte Axelson Consultant Disability and Development, CBM from Belgium
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 08.19 am
A good start and quite comprehensive report, apart from the almost total absence of the situation of persons with disability and employment. This needs to be paid more attention to, knowing that more than 15% of the population have a disability, and even more families are have a member with some kind of disability. There is an obligation according to the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with disabilities, signed by the majority of countries, to promote employment and reasonable accommodation for persons with disabilities. This report pays very little attention to this matter, even the very basic data is not included.

New technologies, accessible infrastructure, ensuring access to loans and credits are crucial for persons with disabilities and they need to be mentioned, otherwise they will continue to appear invisible.

Here are a few facts put together by CBM that can be used to improve the report (this brief has also been submitted by CBM to this consultation earlier on):

"There are over one billion persons with disabilities in the world, and in all countries those with disabilities are under-employed. In developing countries, 80% - 90% of persons with disabilities of working age are un- or under-employed . The economic losses related to the exclusion of persons with disabilities from the labour force range from between 3 and 7% of GDP .
Disability and poverty are strongly linked through a number of factors; the most significant for a global development framework being that people with disabilities are frequently excluded from education, vocational training and employment, and from participation in the marketplace and loan opportunities.
The UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (article 27) prohibits all form of employment discrimination, direct and indirect, and promotes the right to gain a living freely chosen or accepted in an inclusive work environment. Article 28 describes the right to an adequate standard of living and social protection. These two articles should be interpreted together with the general principles of the convention and the right to live independently and to be included in the community (article 19).

Women with disabilities more often face additional barriers to skills training, employment and livelihood opportunities. Having had less access to education and health and with a tendency to look at women’s work as being ‘domestic’ and of less productive value, women are further discriminated against in employment and face higher poverty.

Persons with disabilities are not a homogeneous group and a “person first approach” should apply when it comes to employment. Stereotypes of ‘suitable’ jobs for persons with disabilities must be abolished; persons with disabilities have, with the right support, reasonable accommodation and removal of barriers, the same potential as any other person.

And here follows a few key recommendations when it comes to employment and disability:

1. Equality, human rights and sustainability should be core principles for promoting decent employment and universal social protection.
2. A post-2015 global development framework should have a clear aim and targets on maintaining and creating decent jobs and livelihood opportunities for all, including persons with disabilities, in order to combat poverty.
3. A post-2015 global development framework should support public investment in creating decent employment as well as universal social protection systems for all. Such measures will combat poverty and exclusion, promote social justice and cohesion and strongly benefit persons with disabilities.
4. Sustainable development technologies and alternative low-carbon renewable energy can create new ‘green jobs’ with public and private investment, as can increased investment in disaster risk reduction and management. Persons with disabilities must be given equal opportunities for such jobs.
5. Social Protection Floor recommendations and guidelines should recommend the unbundling of schemes related to income maintenance and to schemes for disability-related extra costs . This would enhance the possibilities for accessing employment and economic and social security.
6. Employment-related goals and commitments set by a new global framework should include specific targets and indicators relating to the inclusion of all people with disabilities in employment, skills development programmes, microfinance and social protection.

Thanks.
Rea Raus Head of Center for Sustainability from Estonia
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 05.09 am
The report has of great value in raising important discussion. Some questions that came to my mind:
1. If a person works for 8 hours a day and lives below poverty "line", his/her work is not valued right. What is a high or low valued job-could also be a discussion. Is hard physical work 20 or more times cheaper than office work? I think there is a too big gap between valuing different jobs...
2. Sustainable economical models should replace extensive growth models in today`s world. That also means moving towards more balanced world, where inequality also in valuing different jobs should be considered. If economical growth is set as a target, considering limited resources of the world, how far can we grow, really? So green jobs, entrepreneurship that "mends" our environment, new, more sustainable approaches in all fields of society is of future concern.
Anders Nordström Ambassador Global Health from Sweden
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 04.45 am
A very useful and good report. However I do miss the dimension of health. The linkages between investments in health, productivity and economic development were clearly spelled out in the report from the thematic report on health. It is quite obvious that we do not only need trained and a well educated works force but also a healthy workforce.. The loses because of high burden
of disease is not only a problem for the individuals but also for the employers and companies. Healthy workers are more productive workers. Investing in health at the work place but also in society more widely provides direct return both for people them self but also enable companies to reduce their costs substantively and increase their earnings. Earnings that will also contribute to the tax base and ensuring reinvestment s in health and other social services.
Asheesh Kumar Pandey from India
Tue, June 18, 2013 at 03.23 am
Want to do some innovative to improve health issues...
Delia B. Senoro, PhD Linkage Officer for International Research & Development and Coordinator of Environmental Engineering Graduate Studies Program from Philippines
Mon, June 17, 2013 at 11.19 pm
The draft report is very useful and very informative to all. Thank you for making this report. The education and training topic is among the important topics/sections as it directly relates and support growth and employment issues. Hence, giving emphasis and more focus on educational infrastructure would aid in giving solution to unemployment and growth rate problems.
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Mon, June 17, 2013 at 10.49 pm
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